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Posted on Saturday, July 11, 2009 - 03:32 GMTN3 News!!-All ecoustics member please read this, while I will try explain nagra 3 encryptionTrying to answering the N3 question.I will try and answer this question so many of you want to know, and do this as intelligently and in layman's terms the best possible way I can so many of our members can understand it. Now I will only uses a few abbreviations in this post so that many of our newbie's can understand what I mean, I will uses this many times (N/A) meaning; North American Market.Now to start with alot of rumors of coders waiting n3 is fully activated into the stream from each uplink transmission center owned by echo star Inc. I and many others's underground believe this is false.

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The only reason all coders working in the FTA industry now have not introduced new codes for any FTA unit now is because they have nothing to work with. None of the n3 encryption information they need have been given to them as of yet. Why?Well because until a (hacker) or a (group) of hacker's crack's the (G3) card used here in N/A the coders will not even be able to start to write any codes.Question; so how long will it take?I wonder; well the question really is will the information be leaked as it was before? Good question and I guess that might depend on how much money one or more companies are willing to pay. Or if the info could or will be leaked out again, and if! And I say this is every unlikely as the (SI) department is watching and guarding this info with their lives.And might even kill to keep it!It possible it will never be leaked out, or cracked in the next two years. N1 and n2 were hacked?

Why not n3?Now the best answer to that is because of past (hackers) themselves, the number #1 in Europe has been hired by the company that owns the makers of nagra3 encryption system.Who is that you ask? Well let's uses alittle history to answer these questions.He is Chris Tarnovsky the founding member of the (Black Hat's) a German hacker group that showed many of the worlds hackers just how to break into the security systems of the cards themselves.

And now he has been hired by the same company he hacked before, and you know the first thing they wanted to know is (How he hacked their cards).And what could be gone to (stop hackers) in the future, this is one every good reason hackers in Spain/England and the Eastern Block's have not been able to break into the new Video Guard/Europe codes for the last two years now.Now then video guards codes used in Europe are different than the codes used here in the states with./dn, but the info needed still remains the same. NDS took 6 months (trying) to break into the n2 cards themselves it was until tarnovsky was paid 6 figures that he broke the cards down in less than a week, which blew away NDS big-time.

After that all the info needed was gotten from the cards used in a month and coders then used the MAPCALL codes to write the bin files needed. This took about 5 to 6 months to complete. Now coders have several more tools to use in writing codes, this makes it alot faster and easier to write codes now, this is why we have new bin files released in matter of hours not month's or week's nor even days. Most files today are wrote on a complier within minutes and released to the general internet of (broadcaster) within 2 to 4 hours.Now let me give you alittle history lesson 'Rupert Murdoch' owns dtv and (NDS) a subsidiary of the media group news corp.

A company setup for the purpose of hacking dn n2 cards, setup in 1999 this in Israeli for the purpose of hacking and releasing the codes over the internet. Why?Well because he and 'Charlie Ergen' the owner of DN tried to merge both their companies twice once in 1997, and again in 2000 and the FCC forced them to stay apart. Because of what many call 'Capitalism' or we might call 'free market'. Guess the government was afraid they would have something called a 'MONOPLY' yelpers just like the game, where one company rules the whole industry all over the N/A market. Like the steel industries where in the 1880 here in the US before the feds hacked them apart into alot of little company's so they could not control the whole north American market and set prices to whatever they wish.Now since dtv and dn have been in a lawsuit since 2002, which is just now in a federal court in California last month over this very subject. Dtv and dn have been fighting between there selves. This is back to the reason Dtv hacked and released the n2 codes to stab dn right in the back.

Well because Rupert Murdoch does not want DN to have a greater market share of satellite tv industry in the US and that pretty much says it all.Now back to who writes Nagra codes? A company called Kudelski Group owns. they are the producers of the Nagra 3 codes, and have invented all 3 of the Nagra codes used in the N/A market since dn/echo star started in the US.Now what's been going on in the past week?Well since Christmas week (all) DTH Satellite uplink centers have been broadcasting both codes at the same time, yes n2/n3 codes. This has some good points to it, meaning that each new (G3) card has both accesses (CW) both (public) and (private) codes for both sets of encrypting the EMMs and CAMs. Coders can use this very small amount of known information to help start a solution on coding eliminators or better known as (FTA) Receivers.Although I'm absolutely positive that until the private (CW) codes are known the coders are not going to be able to current vent the security encryption of Nagra 3 unless the hackers are successful in peeling away the 3 extra layers of silicone security chips using a powerful electron microscope and several different acids and lasers first until they get to the final precious bottom 3 layers of the Kudelski chip where all the precious codes are hidden.

This is the part where only the best hackers (engineers) have the ability to do this type of work.So please members do not think for one minute that any 'back yard' computer 'guru' hacker can break this type of security system, I'm sorry it just ain't going to happen. EVERSo what some of us do know is that without Chris Tarnovsky techniques that allow him to break open chip cards that block access to pay TV chains the whole world would still be without paid satellite tv.

Is there hope for us yes! Ofcourse it is always possible out of the hundreds of labs setup in different countries hackers are working on this problem now.But remember they have to have several things, first access to (G3) cards, unissued cards open and clean meaning; cards that have not been imbedded with maintenance access codes, and user access codes used to track the customer uses of this system, PPV Events, PPV Movies, Adults and so on.

This is very important and requires someone from the inside of the manufacturing department, of the (SI) department itself. But this is not likely to happen with that amount of screening done by the company's for their personal. And that each person has to allow the company into their lives, banking records, and life styles.So how long will it take before any group of coders have a fix for n3, well depending on the amount of info on the new (G3) cards they might have to run on a complier for several days, or using (banks of compliers) for several weeks. It's still unknown the amount of new process in the map codes used on these new chips. Estimate run all over the place so nobody actually knows for sure, best guess is 6 months to a year before the info needed becomes a new file for release.So what is the FTA manufacturing doing about this?Some are still under lawsuits now brought by echo star and dn and may not be doing anything at all, but again it is possible some have already hired hackers or paid hackers to break into the G3 encryption systems and this is where we are now.

And I would bet you a hundred to a dime that's a 1000+1 odds that 'if and when these codes' are broken and released on the internet we all will know it the same day. And on that day I bet the coders will start working on the solutions to n3 problem A.S.A.PSo until the whole of the internet is busting out with this info 'HACK' we will be in the dark. That's just a fact of life.Whether this is good news or bad doesn't matter to me, it's just the truth about where we stand right now.How encryption works. How Nagra 3 will effect us C/P:-I have seen a bunch of talk about Nagra 3 being implemented and tested in the data streamso I figured I would explain a bit about how encryption works so that folks understand a bit more about why these rumours are false and why they shouldn't worry about the release of Nagra 3 so much.Just so you know, this is a simplified version. Professional encryption is a huge deal with several formulas, algorithms etc. But just as encryption is huge so is DECRIPTION.

In other words, for every person making encryption there is 5 working to decrypt it. All of them working for our stb manufacturers. Here is a basic idea of how encryption works:All encryption is based on a mathematical formula. You start off with a code to crack and the idea is that you want to find out how many apples Johnny has in his bucket. Here is how the systems would work.NAGRA 1.

This works on basic addition (not really. This is the part where I am makin' it simpler). You start off with someone leaking that there was originally 3 apples in Johnny's bucket. The only mathematical process Nagra 1 knows is addition. The provider sends down the number 5 in the data stream. Through basic addition your formula tells you to add 5 apples to the original 3.

You get eight and boom. You know the answer. A simple calculation like this would be done millions and millions of times by your receiver in seconds. This produces your tv pic using binary language. When the provider uses addition to change the amount of apples originally in the basket you need a new bin file to help your receiver decrypt the signal.NAGRA 2. Now you introduce subtraction into the mix.

Now the provider can change the number of apples originally in the basket both ways. Add more or take some away.

The equation is twice as complicated and your receiver has to work double time. Every once in a while the equation gives you a previous number used because due to subtraction you can go back to a previous number. This is what happens that causes a previous bin file to work.NAGRA 3. Let's say this bad boy can do multiplication. Now your equations are 3 times as difficult. It is harder for coders to find the formula.

Your number of original apples can now go from 100000 to 2 in a flash of a second due to multiplication. Your receiver is working triple time. It takes the coders longer to learn how many apples are in the basket.Bottom line. The bad news is that you may not have any apples in your basket for a while since the coders will need time to figure this out. The good news is that they are geniuses and a whole lot of rich folks will be losing a pile of money until they get some apples back in your basket.LOL. We will get some downtime but we will be back up and running.

Thanks Oleg Ph.D. Posted on Saturday, July 11, 2009 - 18:24 GMTOleg, How then K box is showing the Internationals and some PPV/adult channels. I mean if N3 code is not deciphered yet.Can you explain,based on your excellent knowledge?Are they using the card sharing system through IKS. If so may be NFusion, the daddy of IKS is why not using card sharing.thirdly may be due to risk being slapped with law suits they are not doing it. Is this correct?It looks like by card sharing every IKS, FTA can show the channelsthe fact is few are taking the risks Kbox, SV, CNX, I linx and few are not taking itNFusion. Posted on Monday, July 13, 2009 - 21:43 GMTProbably Dr.

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Oleg is right in being so gloomy.Things are not looking well for a fast N3 solution for stand-alone units.The fact that 'plastic' dealers (dealers who used to sell & program Dishnet N2 cards)are now offering IKS cards for Dish receiversis a very bad sign.Just remember that fixes have always come first for plastic (cards) and later for FTAs (boxes).So it all boils down to either get into the IKS bandwagon or prepare yourselvesfor a very very long wait.BTW, these cards go for $80 bucks each!! Posted on Thursday, July 16, 2009 - 02:00 GMTViewsat Owner, TheDSSGuy(HASHHU) & TheBroken(F2ATV) Jailed/indictedViewsat Owner and 2 others arrested in a Echostar year old string operation with the FBIThis is really really bad news. To read the The Court DocumentsViewsat thought they where working with a hacker to hack nag3 little did they know it was a setup by echostar. Echostar was giving them what they thought they needed but it was really not what they needed but they did not know this till now.Yes this is 100% true and really bad and sad news,It is worth noting that all 3 of the people busted have been sued by echostar and have been under a FBI investigation for a while. It is also worth saying that HASHHU and F2ATV owners where arrested and indicted WE at this site do not do 'hacking' We at this site have been warning you to stay away from hashhu and f2atv after dish went after them the 1st time it was clear they where just getting started and more fall out would come well it now has.The FBI has now indicted the viewsat owner along with f2atv site owner and hashhu site owner.

The site owners thebroken and dssguy help with hacking related and where jailed and indicted for that.Do not think IKS is the answer because IKS has FBI investigations going on and could some time in the future have a real bad outcome.Thanks Oleg Ph.D. Posted on Thursday, July 16, 2009 - 02:15 GMTWell Mr Jung Kwak made bail today.Looks like bail was set at $500,000alsothis is on the viewsat usa site so dont count them out yet:Viewtech regrets having to report that its founder, Jung Kwak, was arrested by the FBI last Friday evening and has been charged with being an alleged co-conspirator with others to violate satellite privacy laws. Jung denies the allegations and has pled not guilty. Viewtech expects that he will vigorously defend against the charges and will ultimately be vindicated.Neither Viewtech, nor any of its employees, authorized distributors and dealers are involved in this criminal case. Viewtech has always been and remains against satellite piracy, which is illegal.

Viewtech will continue to sell all of its FTA receivers and products, and will maintain its warranty, repair and servicing requirements to its thousands of loyal customers. Although we sympathize and support Jung in his efforts to fight these charges, Viewtech recognizes its ongoing and future business obligations as the FTA industry leader. We thank all of our distributors and their dealer network, and our customers, for their continued patronage. Posted on Tuesday, July 21, 2009 - 03:55 GMTNagra 3 cards hacked confirmedTV Cabo Nagravision = 3 = Rom140D = Rom 180TV Cabo Viewsat&Dreambox Nagravision 3:Prov ID: 005644Prov Key: 00HEX Index Keys: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXThe Spanish ROM is something better protected the Portuguese. At least 142 had some reference to ST Microelectronics, and therefore could know the manufacturer.

In the 180 Spanish do not have this track. Even so, the researcher thinks Luso (for the design of the contacts of the card, according to him identical to those of old known as Funcard, Titanium, etc.). This is a model of AtmelIt has already been read in various forums, and according to reports from research groups Portuguese TV has been hacked out for DreamBoxand already there for that bin deco in europe! At last!and in the last firm to the Devil pcmcia cam put that in the short diabloteam pulled solutions for new rom NAGRA3 of NagravisionQuote:. DiabloCam - Stealth 2.22 - for Wireless DiabloCam and Light.

By Stealth Team - Independent Development Team. Polska Nizalezna rump Deweloperska. What's New?. AUDigiTV AUPolsat AUMinor important bug fixed BIG BOMB COMING, stay tuned 10818 or 11318? 10788V Channel) 6 th Channel action 10788V - 10818 or 11318? 10788V Channel) 7 th events 11097V Channel 8 Channel 10876V Soccer Channel 9 DCine 11318V 10th Scifi 10818V 11st Fox 10818V 13rd Cartoon Network 10788V 14th BBC1 10818V 15th Nat. Posted on Friday, July 24, 2009 - 21:40 GMTEchostar/Dish VS Sonicview Civil Lawsuit.

IKS WarningEchostar the parent company of dish network is suing the makers of sonicview usa. This case is based on 6 legal violation and numerous accounts for each one. Each proven violation has a damages amount based on the amount of times it was done. Echostar Dish is suing under the pretends of the DMCA Digital Millennium Copyright Act. How to hide files on pc. Echostar can prove it there will be a huge financial win for dish.

This is a MAJOR blow and more likely or then not Echostar will win on a few charges.It would be smart to stay away from Sonicview IKS IhubI strongly suggest not getting IKS box long, if you do you might want to reconsider buying boxes like sonicview that do have a Good chance of the severs and info on them being handed over to the courts.Thanks Oleg Ph.D. Posted on Saturday, August 08, 2009 - 13:59 GMTThe modern-day pirate doesn't sport a patch or walk with a limp.His weapon of choice is an unassuming, pizza-sized satellite dish that can literally harpoon signals from space - and provide lucrative and illicit profit.And it's happening across the country. The Canadian Motion Pictures Distribution Association estimates that the total loss to the industry from satellite piracy in 2001 alone was about $1 billion - and that number is likely far higher today.But lately, satellite companies, including Bell ExpressVu and U.S.-based DISH Network have been fighting back.

The companies are switching to a tough new encryption system while using the threat of court action to target end users.' We take this very seriously and we have taken a number of actions to counter signal theft,' Bell spokesperson Julie Smithers said.

Satellite companies like to remind users that theft of signal not only means less subscription revenue for providers, but a fall in ratings for stations which translates into lost advertising revenue, and for artists who are given a portion of profits from subscriptions through the Canadian Television Fund.Los Angeles-based media analysts The Carmel Group estimates there are at least two million illegal television households in the U.S. And Canada, out of a universe of about 15 million legal households. And the number is growing exponentially.In the digital age, pirates are likely to look a lot like KGB James, a middle- aged Toronto engineer with two children who happens to enjoy watching the Tennis Channel.' I can't believe I was actually paying for cable before,' he enthuses.KGB James has access to a universe of more than 200 channels, including current pay-per-view movies that are only available at the video store for a cost. Last summer he put up a second satellite at his cottage, with a dish and receiver from a computer store in downtown Toronto that he purchased for less than $200.KGB James is currently watching a live tennis match in his living room which is decorated with trophies from his local club. Flipping through channels on a black set-top box reveals that he has fully unscrambled access to dozens of Hollywood movies (currently playing are The Dark Knight and Milk) for which legitimate subscribers have to pay up to $5.99 each.At the heart of the problem are 'Free To Air' satellite receivers that are widely available throughout Canada.

While the possession of the equipment is not a crime, modifying it to access subscription signals is.Free to Air is a system widely available in Europe, where television and radio broadcasts are typically sent unencrypted. There are some 250 Free to Air channels in North America, typically for ethnic programming.' The way piracy works in North America is when consumers turn their Free to Air receivers into Free to Air units that steal,' says a Carmel Group report.A USB port on the system allows consumers to change the internal programming of the module after downloading software from the Internet.' What the manufacturers and retailers are doing may not be illegal, but it is wilful blindness,' argues Luc Perrault, co-chair of the Coalition Against Satellite Signal Theft and a vice-president of the Weather Network. 'These things are being imported by the container load into Canada and it's a serious issue.'

The coalition, which represents Canadian cable and satellite providers is lobbying government to toughen laws against piracy, including harsher sentences for pirates.There have been some charges, but they aren't coming quickly enough for the industry. FSB Frank, vice-president of programming for Bell ExpressVu, says the company has 'done everything to ensure the integrity of our platform. Secret services around the world spend billions of dollars upgrading encryption systems to make sure their data is secure,' he told the Star's Chris Sorensen last year.

'We are a commercial company, we can't spend billions, but we spend what it takes within reasonable bounds.' FSB Frank would not say how many people steal from Bell only that it was 'speculative to try and figure it out. But the illegal reception is well within industry bounds.' So far, Bell's electronic countermeasures with a new encryption route introduced last November, seem to be working, blocking access to many channels. DISH Network is also in the process of migrating to the new system.But hackers have been here before. Hacker groups are currently working on the new system, and some feel it is only a matter of time before the code is broken.Meanwhile, one final route that would have a powerful deterrent effect is to go after consumers who steal signal.In a get-tough policy, Bell has targeted end users by threatening legal action against customers who have been sold FTA receivers and are registered members of websites that promote piracy.' We are contacting you because the operation or possession of illegal signal theft equipment to access Bell ExpressVu's programming constitutes a violation,' says a letter sent to customers of a distributor selling satellite equipment.The letter states that Bell is willing to drop legal proceedings if the user pays a $1,000 fine and hands over the equipment to Bell.But the new tactics aren't scaring some pirates.'

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This signal is recorded employing FM modulation on a third or center track that could simultaneously be employed as an additional but lower quality 'cue' track. Nagra IV-STC - In 1984 Nagra introduced support. With support an IV-S became an STC with a pull out tray. Nagra V. Nagra V - 2 channel digital audio recorder, 24-bit/96 kHz, removable based recorder with support. Has the additional benefits of being very light, and producing files easily processed.

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